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#0: 01-13-2014 @ 09:09:03 am
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First as a note of bookeeping, if someone with more time into this thinks it is better to call it a different genre please adjust.  Action RPG just struck me as a better fit of the options we have since it is defininately an RPG with all the levels and stats and gear to worry about. 

I just started playing this last night.  I really should finish Uncharted 2 & 3 before I dive into it whole hog but curosity got the best of me.  I find it intrieging so far and am certainly looking forward to more.  That said, I find myself filled with questions because the game honestly could do a better job of explaining itself (though perhaps that is some of its charm).

I'm hoping Nate gets a chance to respond to some of these though I understand with the computer problems he might not be able to.  Also I'm playing on PS3 not PC so I know some of you are going to have a different experience than me.

  1. So I've noticed about every 1,000 or so souls I gain humanity?  But I'm still undead unless I "Reverse Hallowing" right?  Now I read somewhere that humanity improves item drops.  Does that mean general humanity number or that I need to reverse the hallowing to get that benefit?
  2. So what's the point to the humanity items that drop?  When do I use them?  As healing items?  Or like ASAP to help my item drops?
  3. Is this like PSO/Diablo where I can only have one recovery death spot at once?  That is to say if I die, and then I die again, my old recovery spot goes away?
  4. There's no pause button is there?
  5. So I picked a Knight as my starting character.  Does this mean I'll never learn magic or does it just mean I'm not pre-outfitted for it?
  6. Any tips I should know before going in?  I'm currently in some sorta castle, stuck at a Taurus Demon.  I keep seeing tips about plummetting attacks working well on him, but I just have to get the execution right.

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#1: 01-13-2014 @ 07:24:59 pm
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YAY!!!!  SOMEONE TO TALK TO BOUT MAH FAVRIT GAEM EVAR

 

(It's not really, but it is my game of the year.  And the fact that I can't play due to comp being borked does piss me off more than maybe anything else.)

TIME TO ANSWERS!

1. So I've noticed about every 1,000 or so souls I gain humanity? 

- No.  You get humanity in two forms.  If the boss of an area is still alive then there is a chance that when enemies die they will drop humanity that will immediately increase the amount of "soft" humanity - the number in the top left.  This "soft" humanity is dropped with your carried souls upon death and is retrieved if/when you Recover Lost Power. 

But I'm still undead unless I "Reverse Hallowing" right? 

- Yes.  You use your held "soft" humanity to Reverse your Hallowing and become human.  When you are human you also use your held "soft" humanity to kindle the bonfires that you rest at.  Kindling increases the amount of Est in your Estus flask (you fit more magic apple juice in your cup so instead of healing five times with it you can heal 10 times -- and later in the game up to 20).

Now I read somewhere that humanity improves item drops.  Does that mean general humanity number or that I need to reverse the hallowing to get that benefit?

- No you don't need to reverse your hallowing to get the benefit.  Standard item drop is at 100.  With one held humanity it's at 150.  With 2 held it's like 162 or something.  Having one held humanity is the largest mathematical increase and is where the big benefit is.  Oh, the held humanity also increases your resistance to being cursed (which you won't have to worry about for a while).  In either case you get the benefit from it being held (and it being therefore droppable) and not from actually being alive/human. 

2. So what's the point to the humanity items that drop?  When do I use them?  As healing items?  Or like ASAP to help my item drops?

- So this is the other form of humanity. "Hard" or item humanity.  Upon death this does not drop, just like any item in your inventory you keep them even when dying.  Early on (before I knew about kindling bonfires and reversing my hallowing [an embarrassingly long time {also playing on keyboard there was no "lock target" button to be found, so the game was even more impossible}]) I did use them as additional heals.  Not really the best idea, but they do in a pinch.  I like having a bunch in my inventory for when I wanted to kindle all the bonfires but I had lost all my held humanity because the game hates me.  It hates you too.  Also anyone reading this.  And anyone not reading this.  Anyway, as I said before you don't really need to use them immediately - unless maybe you want to get back up to 1 humanity while venturing back to pick up your old stuff. 

3. Is this like PSO/Diablo where I can only have one recovery death spot at once?  That is to say if I die, and then I die again, my old recovery spot goes away?

- Yes.  Exactly this.  I forgot PSO functioned that way actually.  I've lost hundreds of thousands of souls by dying before recovering my lost power.  It will happen to you too.  General tip, just use your souls to level up and upgrade your weapons at a blacksmith as soon as you have enough.  Find a bonfire, level up, and call it good.  Oh, also UPGRADE your weapons when you find one of the blacksmiths and you've got a weapon you like (the halberd was my best friend for a LONG time, and is still a very good friend).  It's far more effective than just leveling to increase DPS. 

4. There's no pause button is there?

- Nope.  You should be safe if there are no enemies around though - kinda like clearing a room in PSO.  That's provided you're not human and playing online - in which case you could be invaded at any time.  The only real "pause" is when you're resting at a bonfire. 

5. So I picked a Knight as my starting character.  Does this mean I'll never learn magic or does it just mean I'm not pre-outfitted for it?

Me too!  Good choice - our starting shield blocks all physical damage right off the bat, it's good for a turtling/newbie style of play.  You can totally learn magic, you just need to put levels into the stats for magic if you want to use it.  There are three kinds of magic also - Miracles which are tied to Faith, Sorceries which are tied to Int, and Pyromancies which are tied to NOTHING.  Anyone can learn Pyromancy regardless of their stats.  You eventually meet/save merchants and trainers who will chill at Firelink Shrine.  That will be after you leave the Asylum though. 

6. Any tips I should know before going in?  I'm currently in some sorta castle, stuck at a Taurus Demon.  I keep seeing tips about plummetting attacks working well on him, but I just have to get the execution right.

- He's a dick.  Your plummetting attack is when you fall from the balcony onto him - and yeah it will do a decent chunk of damage.  Here are my general tips: Keep your shield up and circle strafe to victory - find their weak side and go at them. 

Learn their attack patterns - two handing a weapon because you know when they are vulnerable makes fights go a lot faster. 

Turtling is great, but speed matters too - endurance increases both your green bar (swinging and running) as well as your equip load. 

If you're under 25% of your equip load you move and roll very fast.  Under 50% you move and roll slower.  Over 50% equip load and you plod along like inexorable Death and roll like a fat sumo wrestler who forgot what he was doing.  I keep at just under 50% personally. 

At times I would make the mistake of just trying to survive.  Survival is almost secondary.  Murder is primary.  (Or possibly running away is primary if it's not a boss.)  I had huge troubles with some bosses because I tried to kite and deal with mobs they were summoning.  Then I remembered I was wearing heavy, sweet ass armor and had an ENORMOUS AX.  Then I won. 

Try out different weapons - it may be worthwhile to use a weaker weapon that swings fast; it could mean staggering them and/or it has a special property like bleeding.

Level up whenever you can!  Upgrade weapons you use!  Unless....

You really want to save for something from a merchant, or if it's a dragon weapon.  I wouldn't upgrade a dragon type weapon until you know more about the game.  Speaking of which....

If it's a dragon or has a tail - CHOP OFF THE TAIL.  You get unique weapons for doing so.  One of the best early game weapons is the Drake Sword which you can get from shooting arrows at the tail of the Red Wyvern.  Only do that from the underbridge through.  Otherwise you will die. 

Oh, and NIGH ON EVERYONE YOU MEET CAN BE KILLED.  So A) be careful not to kill friendlies (unless you want to). And B) That Wyvern for instance?  Yeah, you can murder him. 

 

Ok.  I'm done. 

-N

 

This post was edited by Nayth0r on January 14, 2014, 1:08 am


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#2: 01-14-2014 @ 08:21:29 am
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Woo!  Thanks a ton Nate for taking the time to respond.  Let me parse through this and see if I have any follow ups.

- Yes.  You use your held "soft" humanity to Reverse your Hallowing and become human.  When you are human you also use your held "soft" humanity to kindle the bonfires that you rest at.  Kindling increases the amount of Est in your Estus flask (you fit more magic apple juice in your cup so instead of healing five times with it you can heal 10 times -- and later in the game up to 20).

Two questions then to follow this up.

  1. Does turning human consume humanity? As in do I lose a point of "soft" humanity while doing so?
  2. So that's why one time my Estus Flask had 10 charges. Does Kindling consume "Soft" humanity to work?  If so I imagine I don't want to kindle all the time.

  I like having a bunch in my inventory for when I wanted to kindle all the bonfires but I had lost all my held humanity because the game hates me.  It hates you too.  Also anyone reading this.  And anyone not reading this.  Anyway, as I said before you don't really need to use them immediately - unless maybe you want to get back up to 1 humanity while venturing back to pick up your old stuff. 

You mention here "kindling all the bondfires." Are you making a joke or is there a reason to want to do that? Is there a benefit to kindling a bondfire other than the Estus Flask boost?  Sorry if I'm being too literal.

- Yes.  Exactly this.  I forgot PSO functioned that way actually.  I've lost hundreds of thousands of souls by dying before recovering my lost power.  It will happen to you too.  General tip, just use your souls to level up and upgrade your weapons at a blacksmith as soon as you have enough.  Find a bonfire, level up, and call it good.  Oh, also UPGRADE your weapons when you find one of the blacksmiths and you've got a weapon you like (the halberd was my best friend for a LONG time, and is still a very good friend).  It's far more effective than just leveling to increase DPS. 

Now that you mention it I'm having a hard time remembering which game I played that worked like that.  I know in PSO Dreamcast when you died you dropped your weapon, but I don't think dying again made your last corpse and weapon drop get erased.  Disconnecting/quitting the game did kill all your corpses though and all your dropped items.  This is why in PSO Gamecube/Xbox they changed it to drop all your un-banked money because that was a far less painful loss than possibily using a super rare SPECIAL WEAPON. Now I think in PSO NGC/XBOX the meseta just disappeared forever though and you couldn't pick it back up, though maybe that was just in offline multiplayer.

Point is, I KNOW I played a game like this where if I died it was okay because everything I lost was on my corpse and if I made a corpse run to get it back all was forgiven, so long as I didn't die again along the way in which case I was FUCKED and that first lost corpse was gone for good.  Mighta been Dreamcast PSO.  Mighta been Diablo 1 or 2. Mighta been Vagrant Story.  Can't quite recall.

Eitherway I've felt the sting of this now. More on that later.

- Nope.  You should be safe if there are no enemies around though - kinda like clearing a room in PSO.  That's provided you're not human and playing online - in which case you could be invaded at any time.  The only real "pause" is when you're resting at a bonfire. 

K.  Good to know.

Learn their attack patterns - two handing a weapon because you know when they are vulnerable makes fights go a lot faster. 

You know, I caught myself yesterday getting frustrated against well shielded foes and then I thought "wait a minute.  If this were a real sword fight, my goal should be to attack his SWORD side not his SHIELD side..." so then I circled around the spear-skeleton's weapon side.  He reacted by making a wild jab which flew way way off and I punished him with a quick death.  I did the same to the next skeleton and he also died much faster than my previous "wait for them to strike me" tactic was working.  I think I get what you mean about learning attack patterns and finding vulnerable points.

Turtling is great, but speed matters too - endurance increases both your green bar (swinging and running) as well as your equip load. 

My Knight is currently leveling health, strength, and stamina in almost equal measure. Because I started with more HP that's still my highest stat (not a bad thing from where I sit), but I do like having a bigger green bar, so I hear you there.

The stamina part is actually one way this game is like Skyrim.  I can make bigger, harder hitting attacks, but they drain me more, so if I want to go for that big-melee-burst-damage I should make sure I have the stamina to support it.  What makes this combat better than Skyrim's though is that stamina is ALSO drained by evasive manourvers (that is to say evasive manouvers exist at all) as well as blocking, making it much more of a trade off.  I am really enjoying how each swordfight asks "How much do you want to commit to killing this fucker?  Are you willing to commit ALL YOUR STAMINA to kill him now?  You sure you want to do that?  He has a buddy behind you." The end result is that a lot of my (sword-fight related anyway) deaths feel like "nope.  That was my fault.  I was an idiot by leaving my side open like that," as opposed to "AUGH THIS GAME IS SO UNFAIR" *gnaw controller.*

f you're under 25% of your equip load you move and roll very fast.  Under 50% you move and roll slower.  Over 50% equip load and you plod along like inexorable Death and roll like a fat sumo wrestler who forgot what he was doing.  I keep at just under 50% personally. 

GOOD TO KNOW.  I'm going to see if I can get to below 50% then.  My Knight is at like 34.5/55 I think and being able to move quicker would make sword fighting easier/more rewarding I think.  In the mean time 50%+ doesn't feel terrible, but I can imagine how being overburdened would SUCK.

At times I would make the mistake of just trying to survive.  Survival is almost secondary.  Murder is primary.  (Or possibly running away is primary if it's not a boss.)  I had huge troubles with some bosses because I tried to kite and deal with mobs they were summoning.  Then I remembered I was wearing heavy, sweet ass armor and had an ENORMOUS AX.  Then I won. 

You know, last night I kinda had my first brain flash that saw death as something I could use TO MY ADVANTAGE instead of something to be feared.  I'm in Undead Berg and there's this REALLY BADASS tall knight with dark armor who WREAKED ME the first time I saw him.  I was going to move on to the Taurus Demon again and then I thought, "You know what?  I can get to the spot where I fight him like every time.  It's not hard for me anymore because I'm like level 17 or something and I know these foes and their patterns now.  I'm gonna go back down there, draw him out, fight him, and if it starts going awful I'll run away so my corpse end up someplace good to pick it up."  So I fought him.  It went terrible, but I learned that even when I get a good hit in I'm only doing like 37 damage to him and his attacks TEAR THROUGH my Stamina right now so rather than bang my head against that I think I should come back when I'm stronger.  In the meantime, grabbed corpse, went back to bondfire, called it good.

Try out different weapons - it may be worthwhile to use a weaker weapon that swings fast; it could mean staggering them and/or it has a special property like bleeding.

Started doing this last night too.  I am actually debating if I like the trust attack from Longsword more than the jumping attack from Broadsword.

I also tried dual wielding a shortsword and a longsword!  It was kinda fun!  Until I fought a Spear Skeleton and had no good way to block his attacks!  Then I died!  Horray!  Yeah I put the shield back and got my corpse. We're fine.  Though... now I'm thinking... against foes I can't really block anyway like the Taurus Demon... maybe it might help to be able to go two-fisted-steel-hatred on him.

If it's a dragon or has a tail - CHOP OFF THE TAIL.  You get unique weapons for doing so.  One of the best early game weapons is the Drake Sword which you can get from shooting arrows at the tail of the Red Wyvern.  Only do that from the underbridge through.  Otherwise you will die. 

Oh, and NIGH ON EVERYONE YOU MEET CAN BE KILLED.  So A) be careful not to kill friendlies (unless you want to). And B) That Wyvern for instance?  Yeah, you can murder him.

Roger wilco.  I saw messages from players advising me to kill a merchant I found.  I decided not to listen.  At least not until I was sure I didn't need something from him, which I did.

Other things I discovered last night:

"Hooray!  Apparently dead bosses stay dead even if I bondfire!"

I decided yesterday to try a Dragon Sorcerer because I was just insatiably curious as to how magic would work in this game.  In about an hour and 30 minutes I got to as far as my Knight was and then further.  She's past the Taurus Demon, gone through the underbridge (though I don't have any sort of bow/arrow to get that tail yet so I'll have to come back for it) and when last I left her she's parked near the beginning of the Undead Parish.  I was expecting spellcaster to be hard but Soul Arrow is a SOLID spell and so long as I keep pumping int it keeps getting more solid.  Plus 30 uses ain't nothing to sneeze at, and I'm hoping once I can attune more spells that I can more easily go from bondfire to bondfire and not run out of magic.  So yeah I curiousity satiated.  Now I need to make the call to keep forging ahead with her or go back to my knight. I'm going to force myself to make that call tonight.  The Sorcerer has gotten further in the game at this point but she has also had a catastrophic "I died and then died again" situation losing all of her soft humanity where as my knight has something stupid like 6 soft humanity right now.

Now that I've got more time in I do have a few more questions:

  1. So Knight looted something called "Broken Straight Sword" - is this something a blacksmith can fix once I find/save one?  Or is it junk?
  2. Is there something I should be doing or planning to do with unwanted loot?  I keep getting Hallowed gear that is not as good as my knight gear, in multiples, and the merchant in Undead Burg doesn't seem to want me to let me sell him stuff.
  3. I bought that bottomless box thing and am trying to put doubles of items I don't want to carry with me in it.  I assume that's a good practice?
  4. When I went to go bed last night my brain said "You know what you should do? Play more Dark Souls!  You've only played 2 hours of it already today!"  WHAT HAVE I DONE?!

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#3: 01-14-2014 @ 08:12:33 pm
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My pleasure! 

  1. Does turning human consume humanity? As in do I lose a point of "soft" humanity while doing so?
  2. So that's why one time my Estus Flask had 10 charges. Does Kindling consume "Soft" humanity to work?  If so I imagine I don't want to kindle all the time.

Yes and yes.  To become human you use one of your soft humanity, and each time you kindle it uses a humanity.  Kindling does add 5 to to your Estus Flask though.  So becoming human and kindling means two humanity used and in return that bonfire forever gives you 10 magic apple juices.

You mention here "kindling all the bondfires." Are you making a joke or is there a reason to want to do that? Is there a benefit to kindling a bondfire other than the Estus Flask boost?  Sorry if I'm being too literal.

Estus flask boost.  That's it.  But the world is BIG, so you don't really want to be running back to Firelink every time you want a full recharge on juice.  I didn't kindle ALL of them, but I got one in each area up to 10 and then 20 (once you learn greater kindling).  Apparently kindled bonfires carry through into New Game+, so I actually SHOULD have kindled all of them to max, just because.  Humanity it a nice resource, but you can farm hard humanity in some places, so it's not a HUGE deal when you use it or lose it. 

My Knight is currently leveling health, strength, and stamina in almost equal measure. Because I started with more HP that's still my highest stat (not a bad thing from where I sit), but I do like having a bigger green bar, so I hear you there.

Good choices!  Learning Lesser Heal from the cleric dude at Firelink is probably pretty close to do-able too.  You might need a point or two into faith in order to use it.  

I'm in Undead Berg and there's this REALLY BADASS tall knight with dark armor who WREAKED ME the first time I saw him.  I was going to move on to the Taurus Demon again and then I thought, "You know what?  I can get to the spot where I fight him like every time.  It's not hard for me anymore because I'm like level 17 or something and I know these foes and their patterns now.  I'm gonna go back down there, draw him out, fight him, and if it starts going awful I'll run away so my corpse end up someplace good to pick it up."  So I fought him.  It went terrible, but I learned that even when I get a good hit in I'm only doing like 37 damage to him and his attacks TEAR THROUGH my Stamina right now so rather than bang my head against that I think I should come back when I'm stronger.  In the meantime, grabbed corpse, went back to bondfire, called it good.

Black Knights are SUCH DICKS.  They also can drop super sweet items.  Until you get to later locations they act as mini-bosses.  That is, like actual bosses they don't respawn.  I led him to the area between the stairs and has the tower -- took me a bunch of tries.  Heck I think I might have died the first time against him in NG+ even. 

Started doing this last night too.  I am actually debating if I like the trust attack from Longsword more than the jumping attack from Broadsword.

Yeah, it's pretty much a matter of taste.  But do buy the bow and arrows from the merchant in Undead Burg and get the Drake sword.  The Broadsword does 82 damage plus some amount of your STR as I recall.  The Drake sword does 200.  No modifier though - which makes it less useful later on = but it makes the early game SO much more managable. 

I also tried dual wielding a shortsword and a longsword!  It was kinda fun!  Until I fought a Spear Skeleton and had no good way to block his attacks!  Then I died!  Horray!  Yeah I put the shield back and got my corpse. We're fine.  Though... now I'm thinking... against foes I can't really block anyway like the Taurus Demon... maybe it might help to be able to go two-fisted-steel-hatred on him.

I never really did two handed.  I feel like Parrying is the what you should be doing when double fisting, and I'm terrible at it.  Also when I'm using a shield if they hit super hard and take away all my stamina, well, better that than my health. 

1. So Knight looted something called "Broken Straight Sword" - is this something a blacksmith can fix once I find/save one?  Or is it junk?

It's pretty much junk.  You could use it and even upgrade it, but it's always going to be a busted sword.  UNLESS you use an appropriate boss soul on it to make it into a special weapon.  That's so much later on that it's silly to contemplate though.  

2. Is there something I should be doing or planning to do with unwanted loot?  I keep getting Hallowed gear that is not as good as my knight gear, in multiples, and the merchant in Undead Burg doesn't seem to want me to let me sell him stuff.

3. I bought that bottomless box thing and am trying to put doubles of items I don't want to carry with me in it.  I assume that's a good practice?

Ok, this REALLY bothered me.  Merchants don't buy anything from you.  Ever. 

However, after you ring the two bells another dude shows up who you can functionally "sell" items to.  He doesn't give you shit as far as souls, but it's better than nothing.  It's generally 50 for a weapon and 100 for a peice of armor.  I just tossed everything I wasn't using in my box.  Carrying everything has no affect, but yeah, just toss it in your box until you can "sell" it. 

4. When I went to go bed last night my brain said "You know what you should do? Play more Dark Souls!  You've only played 2 hours of it already today!"  WHAT HAVE I DONE?!

Yes.  I wish I was playing it right now.  SIGH. 

 

N


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#4: 01-17-2014 @ 01:11:28 pm
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PROGRESS REPORT!

I picked my knight to continue.

Then my knight failed to kill the Taurus Demon 5 times in a row.  The sixth attempt I let him get stabbed in the back because I'd aggro'd a zombie I didn't know about and thus lost like 8 soft humanity and 3,000+ souls. 

So then I rolled a theif.

The theif (named Kasumi), so far has been quite successful.  Beat the Taurus Demon first attempt.  Got the Drake Sword.  Generally speaking not having a difficult time with Undead Parish.  Turns out I enjoy this game more when I'm below a quarter weight limit, move really fast, and do 147% bonus damage on critical hits instead of just 100% bonus damage.  It's pretty satisfying one-shotting foes with a backstab, and even when I can't, I attack so quick with so little stamina spent per slash that I can still punish foes when they let up even the smallest openings.

Unfortunately once I made it to the Undead Parish bonfire I brickwalled.  I can't kill the headless statue thing right past the blacksmith.  It took another bit of time before I found out I COULD get up onto the second level of the church.  Now I'm at the bell gargoyle, damn thing cost me 2000 souls and 2 humanity when I botched getting back to him once.  I went back to Undead Burg to by a Scimatar to see if that was going to help against the Gargoyle.

I do have a really important question:  If I quit while I have a recovery corpse to get, does that corpse disappear?  I've had a few sessions where I've wanted to call the session after a death, but then I was afraid that doing so would cause me to lose the soul drop.  Do you know?


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#5: 05-26-2014 @ 10:48:55 am
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So I picked up this game since it was on sale on Steam for $7 this weekend. I'm thoroughly enjoying it! I started out Knight and just picked up the Drake Sword and Knight Shield. I also have to thank Naythor and Vergil for all these previous tips. It's been a great help! I also didn't see it mentioned yet but there is a fan fix for the PC to upgrade the resolution from it's basic 1024x720 to whatever you want. You can find recent upgrade here.

Also general question. It seems when I equip certain shields it's upgrading my attack or something? So some shields will give me an attack bonus?

EDIT: Nevermind, found my answer. Apparently you can equip a shield in your right hand and use them as a weapon. Kinda weird but explains why they have an attack stat.

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#6: 05-28-2014 @ 08:04:55 am
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Presently I have a few options open to me.  I'm a level 29 (maybe 28?) Thief.  Bell Gargoyles are dead, Bell in the Undead Parish is rung.  Now I'm not really sure where to go.

I tried going to New Londo Pass. With the ghosts.  At first this seemed like an obvious choice.. I went up, so now I must go down.  I can easily take one or two of these ghosts at once, but then the fuckers like to start coming in packs of six or more.  It'd be one thing if after them there is a bonfire, but I can't find a god damn bonfire in that place so everytime I go in its a big question of if I can even get past the ghost clusterfuck in order to keep exploring.  Very frustrating.

So I figured I must not be powerful enough to do that yet.  If the ghosts were dying in one or two hits instead of five maybe.  So I went back to Undead Parish and explored Darkroot Garden.  Hit a dead end, went to Darkroot Basin.  Found the campfire there after killing a very mean looking knight, and saved.  Awesome.  Now my choices are try to figure out how to get past a magic spewing hydra, or climb further down into Valley of the Drakes.  I'm happy to report I was able to kill almost two drakes before I died there!

So I'm not really sure where I'm supposed to go now.  Every path available to me feels like it's too hard to proceed, so the game isn't really communicating to me which of these options is correct.  It is starting to sound more and more like grinding through New Londo Pass which is going to make me tear my hear out, is sadly my best option, but I'm not sure.

Oh and also I found a tower back up to Undead Berg.  With a knight.  Who can one shot me.  THIS GAME!

Again I find myself wondering if I should just grind for awhile.  I could easily farm crystalline golems in Darkroot Basin for a few levels.  they give a TON of souls on kill, or even the drakes in the valley of the drakes.

This post was edited by machvergil on May 28, 2014, 11:06 am


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#7: 05-28-2014 @ 08:19:30 am
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Kinda of in a similar spot. I think I'm level 24 or something. Got the first bell rung. I hear there's an optional boss somewhere in the darkroot garden to fight who's not too difficult. I haven't explored it fully though. I also found a shortcut back to firelink and went through the graveyard cause I forgot to do that and found the catacombs. Didn't really explore it though so not sure what's there.

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#8: 05-28-2014 @ 07:30:34 pm
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Here to help, here are my thoughts. 

 

Have you guys done the lower part of Undead Burg yet?  There is a door on the on the wyvern bridge that should take you to Lower Undead Burg.  That eventually leads us to the sewer area and then down to Blight Town, which is just as pleasant as it sounds.  The sewer is pretty cool actually.  

 

Darkroot basin is a great place to play around.  You can actually get the Hydra to kill the crystal golems with relative ease.  The tower there contains Havel the Rock, who is fucking awesome and will one shot the shit out of you.  Strip naked, dodge a lot, and backstab him with Drake Sword. 

The Hydra - engage in melee, but don't get too close or you will drown. 

Congrats on killing Drakes.  They suck SOOOO HAARD. 

 

Darkroot garden is also cool with the stone giants.  Oh, and the big door that unlocks with the 20000 soul crest/key that you can buy from the blacksmith?  There's an illusory wall that has a bonfire next to it. 

 

-N


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#9: 10-21-2014 @ 07:37:50 am
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PC Dark Souls is moving off of GFWL to Steam and you can move your stuff over starting next month.

I really should get back to finishing this game.


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