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#0: 12-28-2017 @ 07:48:10 am
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  • Real Name:Haldon Lindstrom
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Just a fun little piece for anyone in the group who enjoys data-analysis and superheros, and wants more number-crunching about the same.

I thought it was an interesting piece which analyzes patterns in superheroes based on gender - not total numbers of men vs women, but patterns between the two groups.

#1: 12-28-2017 @ 05:50:37 pm
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Super interesting read!  Thanks!



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#2: 12-30-2017 @ 06:16:59 pm
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Agreed!  Interesting find. 

This actually reminds me of my own trials/struggles I come to with naming persons in storytelling.  There is a imperative that speaks to me that when a character is female, I must have their title/name make that clear in some way.  My active thinking is tends to be "that they are female makes them special so I want to call attention to that," but what I'm not thinking about is how it continues to establish the idea that "they are female, meaning they are OTHER and must be indicating as such."  

it also puts you in some real holes for future storytelling.  Case in point - I dig the notion that Mjlonir in the Marvel comics grants the powers of Thor to whomever is worthy.  This of course makes sense that sooner or later you'd have a female Thor - but then you run into the problem that the name we use to describe the "super hero with this power set," case in point Thor, is clearly female.  If the superhero had just been named "Lightning Hammer," or "Divine Thunder" then it's a much easier case to transpose who is and isn't this character at any given time.  (This particular example is a bit thorny since "Thor" is also based on a specific deity in a specific myth culture, so saying anyone is Thor other than Thor is probably a bit suspicious for that reason too - just using it an example in this case).  Even going with "God of Thunder" is an easier move, though it still has the issue of using gendered pronouns in the process which, hey welcome to English ladies and gentlemen.  On the other hand, a hero names like "Green Lantern," "Green Arrow," "Storm", "Rogue," "Wolverine," "The Incredible Hulk," "Deadpool" etc, can easily describe a character of either gender.  

I also think its fair to say you'd see similar data breakdowns in places other than comic books as well where fictional super powered persons exist.  Lord knows League of Legends has a serious bias towards making their agile, seductive, supporting, or magic-based characters female, and their strong, burly, tanky, angry, murderous, creepy, sinister, or cosmically-all-powerful characters male.   To LoL's credit they have gotten better about making exceptions over time (Leona as a female tank, Taric as a male support, Varius as an agile male, Rek'Sai as a creepy, monstrous, violent, predator female void-beast-thing), but they are certainly exceptions vs the rule. 

This post was edited by machvergil on December 30, 2017, 9:29 pm

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