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#320: 02-01-2012 @ 10:20:50 am
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RenairenRenairen

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KOGBORG. TAKE ALL OF MY MONEY.


#321: 02-10-2012 @ 08:21:51 am
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In case you were wondering what Rammus' taunts sounded like...


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#322: 02-10-2012 @ 10:37:46 am
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So good.  Some of them are really fast, and you may miss others by laughing too loud.


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#323: 02-10-2012 @ 12:03:02 pm
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Pretty hilarious! Though I find the more "meta" ones to be kinda lame. Like Karma's or Eve's.


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#324: 02-23-2012 @ 12:17:51 am
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BountyHunterSAxBountyHunterSAx

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God I hate Rammus. I hate him so very very much.

In part, it's because I play Nocturne now. Honestly - I can't think of any champion that so *completely* counters another as rammus counters nocturne.

They both jungle, so you will run into him. Nocturne is fast like crazy, but Rammus' powerball is faster. Nocturne blocks an ability, but rammus gets *2* disables (bump w/powerball into taunt). Nocturne deals asinine levels of AD damage, but Rammus gets thornmail in his W *INSTANTLY*. Nocturne can fly out of the jungle with his ult from nearby; but Rammus can powerball out *AND* powerball to move around faster . . .for escapes and initiates. Nocturne can counter jungle efficiently, but Rammus can cross the map so much faster - and escape if detected.

And then there's thornmail. One simple item that turns Nocturne into his own worst enemy. Who cares if you only have 1300 hp? I'll deal that much damage in 3 hits . . . to MYSELF :(. Against other tanks, a thornmail is a good sign that it's time to start fighting elsewhere/split pushing lanes/ assassinating roamers. Against Rammus? I might as well disconnect to stop feeding. Because he can and *will* show up from the jungle randomly as a powerball - he *will* disable me with his 2x cc, and I'll kill myself on his shell with 3-5 attacks in less than 2 seconds.

There really is no other champion that I'll look at in champion select and instantly be ready to throw in the towel, barring the rare example of the player being very bad at it (I say rare, since most players seem to have 300+ wins). I've scoured various item builds and combinations. The only option that seems to have any chance at working is to go off-tank with Nocturne (Frozen Mallet, Atmog's, etc.) The problem is that's such a *HORRIBLE* build for nocturne to do what he's meant to do (AD-carry or AD-assassin) that you'll never be able to farm that kind of gold effficiently since your dmg is too low to credibly kill anything. And even if you succeed - who cares? Rammus STILL can disable your usefulness for 5-6s in a teamfight; which is more than enough.


This would *all* be more forgiveable if there was at least a sense of "just carry harder" to fall back on. Like, "Try denying Rammus blue/jungle" or stuff like that. The problem is, even if he falls 2-3 levels behind, by the time he hits Lvl6, he should have bought a thornmail. . . and thus ended my game entirely.


Its times like this I remember: I should be playing draft. Since I don't, I can't really complain about "its not fair". I'd never ever ever choose Noc in a draft game if I knew I'd have to face down an anti-carry like Rammus. Ditto for picking Vlad vs Kassadin.

-AHMAD


#325: 02-23-2012 @ 06:21:45 am
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I do believe we had a saying way way back when we first started playing LoL and MonkeyLord was maining Rammus.  I believe that saying was "Rammus is Solid, Deal with it."

In other words yes, your closing thoughts on the post concerning draft mode and not really being able to counter him with Nocturne are 100% correct.  Rammus cannot be countered by Attack Damage characters PEROID.  Even ranged AD Carries eventually buckle to Thornmail + Defensive Ball Curl.  It's a constant of League of Legends and has been since the game came out.  It's one of those things you just, well, deal with.

MonkeyLord could speak better to this because he used to play him, but the one thing I know about Rammus is he starts slow. His health totals nor his damage are high enough to make him win 1v1s at the early game, and even if you can't catch him, chasing him out of his own jungle should be victory enough.  Also, if you aggressively ward his jungle, your team could help you with killing him.

But yes, in general, there will be a point in the game where it is NOT your job, as Noctrune, to kill Rammus.  That's someone else (preferably the AP carry's) job. 


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#326: 02-23-2012 @ 08:14:03 am
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BountyHunterSAxBountyHunterSAx

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I understand that; I just wish that he didn't so completely shut down *my* gameplay with that evil taunt of his.

I actually got some really good general advice from sean though: MR counters thornmail. It's obvious really, and yet something I'd never really considered. While fighting rammus as nocturne is always doomed to fail, fighting "thornmailed carries" is not, and early Hexdrinker/later Banshees are both very credible options to deal with early/late thornmailing.

Bottom line: I'd be nukey enough with 50AD less, and a lot more utility.

-AHMAD


#327: 02-23-2012 @ 01:26:33 pm
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But yes, in general, there will be a point in the game where it is NOT your job, as Noctrune, to kill Rammus.  That's someone else (preferably the AP carry's) job.

Preferably the entire teams jobs cause I'm not sure what you'd be doing targetting the tank unless he's the last guy alive. But in general, Rammus counters AD characters and AD heavy teams, particularly attack speed characters. As stated, you just deal with it. In particular though, play draft. Seriously, I find it generally more enjoyable to know what's coming and it's more likely your team will coordinate to get a decent/good team comp rather then just random picking and hoping your team comes out with something decent. You can also just straight up ban Rammus then, most people recognize he's a harsh tank that when played well can devestate an enemy team so won't really argue against banning him.

Long story short, don't fight Rammus alone as an AD/AS character, he will shut you down, that's his specialty. You should only be fighting him when he's early leveled before he gets his ball rolling (pun intended), he is the last guy to pick off (even then be careful), or you have your team with you to destroy him (again him being preferably the last guy you kill).


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#328: 03-06-2012 @ 02:43:10 pm
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Happy Trees Maokai. Would instabuy.


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#329: 03-09-2012 @ 02:25:42 pm
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The following is something that randomly popped in my head today.  Steph was on IM and she was subjected to this.

It's fiddle in the middle, you're in the middle with fiddle
MIIIIIDDDLLLE
FIDDDDLLLLLEE

It's really not a riddle, he'll make you scream just a little
MIIIIIDDDDDLLLLLE
FIIIIDDDLLLLLE

Drain, Drain, he'll eat your brain.
Crowstorm and he'll ruin your day. 
Eating oranges won't make you okay,
when you're in the middle with fiddle and it's fiddle in the middle....

MMIIIIIIDDDDLLLLE
FIIIIIIIDDDDDDLLLLE
INNNNNN
THEEE
MIDDDDDLLLLLLEEEEE!

 

I should probably be committed.


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