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#0: 11-07-2013 @ 11:59:51 am
Link to this Post: http://www.machvergil.com/gamenight/messages.php?go=6691#6691

MachVergilMachVergil

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  • Real Name:Adam
  • Joined:2010-01-22

This has been my own personal hell today.

So I've been trying to catch up on Ren & Jay's Aliens LP while coding, and at one point Ren made a joke I wanted to comment on.

Well then YouTube decided today was the day it would just become a royal cockbite. In order to comment I have to link my google+ account to YouTube, OR I need ot turn my YouTube account INTO a Google+ account.

Here's why this is tricky for me.  I currently already run two google accounts.  One is a throwback to when I was in early college when the thinking online was still that you NEVER identify yourself by your real name.  The other was started after I graduated when building an identity online with your real name became a good idea professionally.  By that time I'd had so many years on the other account I didn't want to close it down so I didn't.  Over time things have become divided.

The Fun account manages:

  • e-mail
  • Google Play Music
  • YouTube
  • Is linked to a large % of my video games/gaming services
  • Became my fall-back e-mail when MSU closed my account.

The Professional account manages:

  • e-mail
  • Social Networking in general (Twitter, LinkedIn, Google+)
  • Is handed out on my proflio and to professional contacts.
  • Is supposed to be used by family, but they tend to use the other one because it's older.

I really don't want to have a 3rd Google account to have to manage to use YouTube, so I have to merge my YouTube into one of these accounts, which means that if I don't use the professional account, I end up with two Google+ accounts with the same name tied to me again. Plus I end up with my real name on YouTube comments, which I'm not a fan of.  Of course I could give my fun account a bogus name, but if I do that then people who e-mail with that account won't get e-mails from "My Real Name" anymore. 

This whole thing is a clusterfuck and I don't know what to do.  I'm leaning more and more to the realization I'm probably going to have to shut down the "fun" account and migrate completely to the professional one and just deal with it.  Ugh.


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#1: 11-07-2013 @ 01:13:47 pm
Link to this Post: http://www.machvergil.com/gamenight/messages.php?go=6693#6693

Misharum KittumMisharum Kittum

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  • Real Name:Tim
  • Joined:2010-01-22

I still absolutely hate social networking and the kinds of changes it has brought to the Internet.


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#2: 11-07-2013 @ 01:37:17 pm
Link to this Post: http://www.machvergil.com/gamenight/messages.php?go=6694#6694

MachVergilMachVergil

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  • Joined:2010-01-22

TL;DR: I disagree with how you phrased it but I think I agree with the heart behind what you're saying.

I will defend Twitter as a 100% more useful and less timewasting way for game companies to communicate to me about urgent updates and new content coming for their game over official or unofficial forums or wikis.  It's also an awesome way to learn about new projects from my favorite game companies, game developers, indie developers, web comic artists, Youtube personalities, public figures, musicians, etc etc.  Following famous web designer Cameron Moll on Twitter made me learn of his Authetnic Jobs website which is how I found my current job. 

I will also defend LinkedIn as a great tool for networking, if you use it for that.  It can also be completely useless if you put zero time into it.

Aside from that I tend to agree.  RSS > Twitter for actually learning news since if you don't happen to be checking Twitter at the time the news breaks you will completely miss it. I am distraught that we've reached the point that people are treating RSS like a replaced technology when nothing better has in fact been invented.

While I think it's cool that we're reached a point where we are comfortable to use our real identities online for some things, this notion of using it for everything as suggested by systems like Facebook and Google+ is just mind numbingly stupid.  Facebook could be an amazing tool for keeping up with your friends if it wasn't completely obsessed with selling your personal details to unknown parties for god knows what purpose and they aren't constantly trying to trick you into letting them do so.  This is a shame because clearly most of us are walking around with internet connected cameras now and things like Facebook and Google+ makes it super easy to share our slices of life with our friends, but then they are locked down behind enforced membership to even see them.

My issue here is less "Social Networking is the poision that is killing the internet" because it's not - it's the new idea that is making the internet grow in new and interesting ways we're just too old to like it.  My issue is more the replacement/enforced joining of old ways of doing things on the internet with privacy invasion Social Networking practicies.  THAT is the real issue here.  I feel that "Forcing people to use their real identity will promote better behavior" is a lie because it ignores the wonderful things that are online that have been contributed by people who aren't looking to promote themselves or don't want recognition.  Shit people think comment systems are naracsistic now, slamming Google+ into will only make it worse.

This post was edited by machvergil on November 7, 2013, 4:38 pm


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#3: 11-07-2013 @ 05:40:38 pm
Link to this Post: http://www.machvergil.com/gamenight/messages.php?go=6695#6695

Misharum KittumMisharum Kittum

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  • Real Name:Tim
  • Joined:2010-01-22

I guess I'm grouchy because I very much think that knowledge is power, and that by putting information about myself out on something as wide open as the Internet I'm giving power over me to anyone who takes the effort to parse it together. Anonymity on the Internet was how you mitigated that, which is the whole reason I've built up the Misharum Kittum pseudonym. Forcing the merger of various Google accounts into one overarching G+ account where you are also required to put in your real name upsets me for two reasons; first because it takes away the protection of anominity, and second because it is such a stark change from Google's old and trustworthy posotion regarding only safety. It's like they're finally becoming evil.

Tangentally, I've used the name Misharum Kittum online for so long that I think of myself as Misharum when I'm doing things online, and since Internet voice chat has arisen I think I'd actually respond to unexpectedly being called Misharum or Mish in real life. You could catch my attention in a noisy room by shouting out "HEY MISH!!" I'd perk up, and then only after a moment find it weird that someone was shouting that name in real life.


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#4: 11-07-2013 @ 06:08:22 pm
Link to this Post: http://www.machvergil.com/gamenight/messages.php?go=6696#6696

MachVergilMachVergil

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  • Real Name:Adam
  • Joined:2010-01-22

Yeah that I 100% agree with.  I've answered to Vergil IRL.  Then again I have also answered to other names via voice before thanks to guilds and WoW.  Trust me the day you realize you're a 26 year old male who responds to the name "Tanadel" you start to wonder if you're awesome or if you messed up somewhere along the way.  I'm sure it's only a matter of time someone calls me by my first cat's name should I ever get far enough into FF14 to raid since I named my character after her.

And I agree with the notion that knowledge is power, and it is a two way street.  I do want people out there to know about Adam Robert Clegg, professional Web Designer, graduate of Michigan State University, 30 year old American Male currently employed in Arlington VA, in case any of that sounds like someone they'd like to pay for something I can do for them some day.  I completely dig that I can build an online brand around myself for the sake of future employment or publishing efforts should I ever make them.

What I don't like is the idea that means I want everyone to know about everything I do on the internet.  No one I care about professionally needs to know I watch Game Grumps and Total Biscut.  They don't need to know I DM D&D on a regular basis. They don't need to know I what games I play and that I think SWTOR was a bad game or that Revengence was one of my favorite games of the year.  It's not that I'm ashamed of any of those things or I think they are bad, and they won't nessasarily cost me a future job.  Still there's no reason everyone on the internet needs to know that kind of stuff, and by Google+ forcing me to slam my real identity onto things like YouTube risks crossing that barrier.  

So on that notion, I'm with you bro.  Brofist and what not.

Sadly as against this as it is, it doesn't fix my problem.  I am not going to boycott YouTube, it makes up far to large a % of my weekly entertainment and stress relief and gaming news, etc.  I'm not goint to boycott Google because what the fuck else would I use for email, streaming music, and remote document editing and storage.  Hell I'm writting a D&D session on Google Drive as I type this. Instead it just puts me in the bind of having to re-evalute all this online identity shit and I'm still conflicted on what to do.

It doesn't help that I'm getting to the point that I don't like "machvergil" as a moniker anymore.  I mean I don't have a better identity yet, and certainly not something that isn't so unique, but "machvergil" isn't a word.  "Dominion or Dominion Prime" are words.  "Misharum Kittum" is two words and also a name.  Same with "MonkeyLord."  When I say "Mach Vergil" to people I feel childish and silly. I'd really love to replace it with something linked to just Vergil that still has a high uniquiness rate.  Would I could get away with "LordVergil" but the uniquiness on that is not high enough.  I've even thought about switching out to "Ludovictus" for awhile before I abandoned WoW entirely. I've been letting the problem sit for years and now I feel like Google is forcing my hand. 

This post was edited by machvergil on November 7, 2013, 9:08 pm


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#5: 11-07-2013 @ 06:51:18 pm
Link to this Post: http://www.machvergil.com/gamenight/messages.php?go=6698#6698

Misharum KittumMisharum Kittum

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  • Real Name:Tim
  • Joined:2010-01-22

I've definitely answered to Alestia in many ventrilo channels for raids over the WoW years, so I know how you feel there! And I did definitely luck out with Misharum Kittum as a name. Dead language, reasonably pronouncable when just seen written, and what the words actually mean is awesome. You could always dig up some dead language and find a couple words that fit the bill and are meaningful to you!

Heck, a quick googling for a Latin dictionary tells me that Ludo Victus would mean something like "Joking Life-giver" in the same way that Misharum Kittum means "Justice and Truth" in Babylonian!

 

ludo : to play, sport / imitate, banter / delude, deceive.

victus : living, manner of life / nourishment, food.

 

Source.


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#6: 11-07-2013 @ 08:06:05 pm
Link to this Post: http://www.machvergil.com/gamenight/messages.php?go=6699#6699

MachVergilMachVergil

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Actually the name was a mistake.  What I wanted to use was "Ludovicus" which means "Famous Warrior."  I wasn't about to pay Blizz money to change it though and I thought it sounded cooler (even if its meaning wasn't as nice).

I felt more clever for the Death Knight "Letumvictus."  Since "Letum" means "Death, Destruction" it seemed apt that the name of a Death Knight be "Sustained by Death" or "Sustained by Destruction"

EDIT: I should ask someone who knows Latin how to accurately combine "Victus" with "Iustita", "Iustus", or "Ius" to get "Sustained by Justice."

This post was edited by machvergil on November 7, 2013, 11:14 pm


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#7: 11-07-2013 @ 08:08:45 pm
Link to this Post: http://www.machvergil.com/gamenight/messages.php?go=6700#6700

BountyHunterSAxBountyHunterSAx

  • Real Name:Ahmad Rasheed
  • Joined:2011-06-29

The new youtube situation has gotten me up in arms as well. I'm finding it incredibly hard to comment or respond to comments on my vids properly, and almost all of them end up crossposted to some poor poster's google+ page. There's no way (as a content provider) to disable this either. And I hate the idea that people will be forced to make google+ accounts to comment on my youtube vids.

Honestly, if there weren't 400+ vids and 350+ subscribers tying me down to it, I'd just up and switch to blip.tv.  I may start transitioning in that direction anyway. Especially since youtube threatens to ban me for copyright infringement if i try to upload a streaming video if that video contains even thirty seconds of me listening to any of my music.

 

-AHMAD


#8: 11-07-2013 @ 08:29:29 pm
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Misharum KittumMisharum Kittum

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  • Real Name:Tim
  • Joined:2010-01-22

EDIT: I should ask someone who knows Latin how to accurately combine "Victus" with "Iustita", "Iustus", or "Ius" to get "Sustained by Justice."

Together we shall be Team Justice!

 

I'm finding it incredibly hard to comment or respond to comments on my vids properly, and almost all of them end up crossposted to some poor poster's google+ page. There's no way (as a content provider) to disable this either.

I actually like that it uses the same account because it is convenient, but I absolutely hate the idea that it wants to crosspost everything I do in YouTube (or any other Google service) to my G+ page. There's no need for it! It is spam! Even if I used G+ I wouldn't want to spam myself! The place where I made the comment is the appropriate place for the comment, not G+! Same with a thumbs up on a comment or video; it doesn't at all need to be crossposted to G+! If I want to share something I'll share it, don't try to force me to do so!


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#9: 11-11-2013 @ 09:56:28 am
Link to this Post: http://www.machvergil.com/gamenight/messages.php?go=6717#6717

MachVergilMachVergil

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  • Real Name:Adam
  • Joined:2010-01-22

Well I've decided the solution for the short term is to turn Google+ back on for machvergil and remove it having the name Adam Clegg attached to it at all for now.  The page is here. I don't intend to use it much for Google+'ing but thought I'd share regardless.


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