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#0: 07-22-2014 @ 08:09:25 am
Link to this Post: http://www.machvergil.com/gamenight/messages.php?go=8413#8413

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This is the official topic for the League of Legends League Championship Series 2014.  This topic is to discuss all events leading up to and including the League of Legends 2014 World Championship.  The participating leagues are:

  • The North American League Championship Series (NA LCS)
  • The European League Championship Series (EU LCS)
  • The Chinese League Professional League (LPL)
  • The Southeast Asian Garena ProLeague (GPL)
  • The South Korean OnGameNet Champion Series (OGN)

As of the time of this post we are going into week 10 of the LCS so there is a lot to catch up on. NA LCS began this year with the following teams in the spring split:

  • Cloud 9 (C9)
  • Team Solo Mid (TSM)
  • Counter Logic Gaming (CLG)
  • Dignitas (DIG)
  • Team Curse (CRS)
  • XDG - formerly Vulcun
  • Team Coast - formerly Good Game University (GGU)
  • Team Evil Geniuses - formerly an EU team (EG)

NA LCS 2014 - Sprint Split

The spring split of 2014 looked from the top much like Summer split 2013 - Cloud 9 and TSM controlling the top spots.  While C9 was the same team who won NA last year and went to worlds (though failed to do much after Groups), TSM took a big risk dropping Reginald for former Coppenhagen Wolf, Bejersen.  The new mid laner brought great power to TSM's midlane, and for a while they looked like they might catch up to C9.  Meanwhile CLG was in the process of rebuilding.  They had to bring in retired HotshotGG to fill as their new talent arrived from overseas: the jungler "Dexter" from Europe.  As CLG worked with Dexter and former TeamMRN top laner Ninetonsoh joined CLG's top lane.  These changes would prove effective and though CLG would still finish the split third, they appeared to be on a huge rise in term of team communication and synergy, as if their full potential had yet to be reached.  TSM suffered problems and in the end couldn't catch C9, ending the split in 2nd.

The rest of the NA LCS struggled through Sprint split 2014. XDG quickly became the worst team in the league, despite going to Worlds the year before.  Bad attempts at position swapping hurt their record and bringing in fan favorite support Sheep in the end didn't have them.  Curse also struggled, being forced to bring in SaintVicious out of retirement for support for a few weeks, but still could never hit a stride.  Sprint Split 2014 also saw the retirement of long-time DIG mid lanner Scarra, one of the oldest Pro LoL players.  DIG wasn't able to find a good replacement for him that meshed well with the team, forcing him to play again during the play-offs.  In the end CRS and DIG did well enough to avoid relegation, but things were not looking good for either team.  Team Coast managed to get a few games in here and there, but it quickly became clear the team lived and died off the talents of ZionSpartan and Shiftur alone.  They seemed two talented players trapped in a sub-par team.  Evil Geniuses did well enough to stay afloat, but the Euro squad who hoped to come to NA and just crush were forced to eat humble pie as they barely avoided getting kicked out after one split.

All-Stars 2014

All-Stars this year worked differently:  Each region sent their best team to compete in a tournament, rather than having a mixed-voted all-star team like last year.  This meant C9 went to represent NA against EU's Fnatic, LPL's OMG, OGN's SKT1, and GPL's Taipei Assassins.  Between Fnatic, SKT1, and Taipei Assassins, the champions from seasons 1 through 3 of League of Legends' Worlds showed up to the match. Right before All-Stars however C9 suffered a major setback: Midlaner Hai had an emergency procedure on his lungs and had to miss All-Stars.  C9 was able to bring in CLG's Midlainer Link to replace him. Though C9 put on an impressive show during the group stages, finally getting a solid win against Fnatic, they faltered against OMG in the semi's and everyone faltered to SKT1, putting the looming specter of Korean dominance on the scene still.  Given the loss of Hai however, C9 put up a good showing.

There were also "Skill matches" where two players from each region were broken into two teams: Fire & Ice (Game of Thrones were big sponsors of the event, surprise, surprise).  TSM's Bejersen and CLG's DoubleLift represented NA, and other big names from the other regions including OGN's Madlife came.

While the All-star event was going on however, chaos struck nearly every team in the NA LCS.  TSM benched long-time support Xspecial, causing him to leave the team for Curse. This forced TSM to import Gleeb from Cloud 9 Tempest, a Challenger Series team made up of C9's alternates that nearly made it in. Nientonsoh stepped down from CLG, causing them to import top-lane talent from Korea, Seraph.  EG also made some serious changes to their roster, losing their Jungle for Korean Helios, and dropping their ADC for C9T's Altec. TSM's TheOddOne also stepped down and TSM added their second former Copenhagen Wolf, with jungler Amazing.

The most impactful events however were the relegation matches that would come after all-stars.  XDG and Coast were both eliminated by the return of Team Complexity, a team who was knocked out in Spring Split 2014, and LMQ.  LMQ is the sister team of Worlds' 2nd place Royal Club, who didn't get far in the LPL and decided to come to NA to compete.  They tore through the challenger series, only C9T putting up much of a fight against them, and for the entirety of the Spring Split 2014, everyone was talking about how if LMQ makes into the LCS proper, they may be a force to be feared. Not only did LMQ make it in, but by eliminating Coast this opened up ZionSpartan and Shiftur as free agents, which Dignitas grabbed to shore up their weakening roster.

NA LCS Summer Split 2014

As soon as the summer split opened up, the NA scene changed dramatically.  As C9 Hai struggled to get back into the swing of things after his surgery, CLG, DIG and LMQ surged past them in an ongoing struggle for first place that continues as we speak.  The new CLG is an aggressive, "never say die" team that has shown tremendous skill, but their bot lane combo of Aphromoo and Doublelift ("Rush Hour" as they are now known, after the movie since Aphromoo is African American and Doublelift is Chinese) has been smashing face all split.  With ZionSpartan and Shiftur, DIG covered up the weaknesses in their lane talents and spent most of the first part of the split dominating.  LMQ took everyone by surprise, but also have shown themselves to be inconsistent.  Meanwhile , TSM has struggled to retake their top spot, suffering growing pains from their roster changes that may still work out for them in the end.  EG, Complexity, and Curse have floundered in the bottom of the standings, but have taken a surprising number of games from high ranking teams, which has lead to the impression that NA is "anyone's game" this split.

As we get closer to the end we are noticing were things may end up.  LMQ has, after many weeks of being tired, taken sole position of first place.  CLG, TSM, and C9 are right behind them, and Dignitas, though technically 5th now, are only 2 games off 2nd place. Curse is starting to wake up, and while members of EG have good games, the team still is losing more games than they win. NA LCS is very close right now, and while we can say we are pretty sure who won't make it into the top 5, how the standings will end before it is all over is anyone's guess.


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#1: 07-30-2014 @ 08:59:29 am
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Machvergil's super casual spectators' observation about current meta by position.

This is what I am seeing the pros play a lot of, so if you are curious what the current meta says we should be playing, it's something like this.

Top

Popular picks:

  • Gragas
  • Lulu
  • Shyvanna
  • Nidalee
  • Renekton
  • Mundo

Uncommon Picks that work:

  • Aatrox

Back from a long retirement from professional play:

  • Shen

Jungle

Popular Picks:

  • Elise
  • Lee Sin
  • Evelyn
  • Rengar

Uncommon picks that work:

  • Nunu
  • Riven
  • Kha'Zix
  • Rammus

Mid

Popular Picks:

  • Ziggs
  • Sindra
  • Orianna
  • Ahri

Working Unusual Picks:

  • Xeras
  • Anivia
  • Zilean
  • Fizz

Still permabanned:

  • Kassadin

ADC

Pick-Or-Else-Your-Team-Loses:

  • Tristina
  • Kog'Maw
  • Lucien

Oh-Shit-You-Didn't-Pick-One-of-Those-Two-this-is-the-next-best-thing:

  • Jynx
  • Corki
  • Caitlyn
  • Twitch

Every other ADC basically ignored

Support

Popular Picks:

  • Morgana all the time
  • Braum
  • Nami
  • Thresh

Uncommon Pics that work:

  • Sona

 

This post was edited by machvergil on July 30, 2014, 2:21 pm


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#2: 07-30-2014 @ 09:38:15 am
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Back from a long retirement from professional play:

    Shen

I think this was largely due to him being disabled for a long time due to a big bug where his ult just would randomly not work. They fixed it in the recent patch. Of course maybe he wasn't picked that much when he was enabled, I just had heard he was disabled for a long time and the bug had something to do with his pick rate.


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#3: 07-30-2014 @ 09:52:54 am
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The patch notes seem to agree with you, Dominion:

 

 

newSEE YOU IN THE LCS Fixed a bug where Shen would occasionally fail to teleport to his protected target for no reason

 


#4: 07-30-2014 @ 10:00:23 am
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I think this was largely due to him being disabled for a long time due to a big bug where his ult just would randomly not work. They fixed it in the recent patch. Of course maybe he wasn't picked that much when he was enabled, I just had heard he was disabled for a long time and the bug had something to do with his pick rate.

Yes that is exactly what I was referring to.  So far he's been played once in EU to my knowledge.


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#5: 07-30-2014 @ 10:58:16 am
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Also damn it, the reason I made this point was to inform Dominion that mid Ziliean is back!  EU is doing it a ton today!


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#6: 07-30-2014 @ 11:04:40 am
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Wooo! I still think you need to build a team comp around him. Sadly can't just throw him in with any team. Glad to see he's getting some pro love though.


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#7: 07-30-2014 @ 11:21:36 am
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They seem to be running him to counter Ziggs's sick mid lane clear specifically. Example:

  • TOP: Lulu
  • JUNGLE: Elise
  • MID: Zilean
  • ADC: Kog'Maw
  • SUPPORT: Thresh

That's a team comp I've seen that Zilean be anything with.  I don't think you need to run him into a specific team unless there is synergy there I'm not seeing.

I should also add that Fnatic has been bringing Fizz back as well.


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#8: 07-30-2014 @ 11:41:12 am
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I don't think you need to run him into a specific team unless there is synergy there I'm not seeing.

Well the issue is Zil's damage kinda peters off as it hits end game. His bombs are definitely not to be under-estimated but compared to other mid laners his damage is not as impressive. If you don't have other lanes make up for it in some way it's a bit of a waste. But I dunno, I haven't played him (or any pvp LoL for that matter) in forever so maybe people figured out how to deal with this or maybe it's not a problem anymore.

That team comp looks fun though. I imagine between Zil and Lulu your team just doesn't die and Elise and Thresh can tank/catch people off guard with snares and hooks at which point Kog destroys them. Or something like that. Just my initial guess having not seen them actually play. Might have to look up that game!


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#9: 07-30-2014 @ 11:51:53 am
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Yeah the pro meta right now (both NA & EU) is late game damage comes almost ENTIRELY from your ADC, which is part of why the high scale damage ADCs like Tristana and Kog are so played.  This allows jungle, top, and mid to pick champs who will either protect that ADC or create enough pressure on the enemy team that they can't get their own ADC fed.  This means that a lot of picks for those roles are no longer carry level power.  Meanwhile Support's job, more than ever, is to protect and provide sustain to the ADC, which is why Nami and Morgana are coming back and Thresh is starting (emphasis on starting) to phase out.  Braum teams often make sure they get shields from somewhere else in the comp, be it Lee Sin, Lulu, or Oriana.

That said not every team does this.  Teams with start reliable mids, like LMQ's XiaoWeiXiao or TSM's Bjersen, still like to put a lot of power in their mid lane, which is why picks like Syndra and Ahri and Ziggs still happen. Also, we've seen A TON of Gragas top lately, and LMQ's Ackerman has used it to create a ton of pain when the mid is more support focused.

I'm still surprised I haven't seen the top Nidalee more TBH.  C9's Balls carried a game with it because he was able to utilize ALL of the utility she brings to the game. Not only was Balls dominating top lane with it, but when he arrived to team fights he was able to acquire scouting, heal the ADC, and chase fleeing foes all at once.


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